Of course, who can kill something people cling to without providing a pleasant substitute? In the weakness and vapidity of the bitcoiner, he simply says what is convenient and speaks in order to shore up his lack of confidence. Too cowardly to stand naked, alone, himself and his bitcoin. Who other than Beautyon all these years has dared speak the truth, over what was a (psychological) convenience?
And the pathetic shouting of course only served to console, for didn't you know the anti-persuasive effects this had... and hasn't it been long enough? The will to be misunderstood as Max Keiser reflected upon was wise, but isn't the time for that passed?
It was called money so much this was believed. Of course, the bitcoiner is sloppy in his speech and thinking, intransigently refusing to draw distinction between future and present, unfit to rule, one might say, noting the lack of theory of mind for those incapable of understanding much at all of present reality -- ironic, given the bitcoiner does not understand the present, so how could he possibly compel the men of his time?
There is something disgusting in the fixation on having read the Austrian and German economics, but nothing of Austro-German philosophy, which would reveal much that has gone unnoticed by Satoshi's apostles, how many layers removed?
For in reading Luhmann and Nietzsche and more incisively contemplating the nature of reality, the bitcoiner may become capable of understanding things as they are. Linguistically, what is money? Nietzsche considered the formation of language and the calling of things as this and this as seals to bring them under one's dominion, so where does that leave money, this word? What if it were the exercising of power over something else that has been obscured, a sort of secondary layer as paper was pointer to gold?
Money is power for the blind fool who denies the existence of power and thereby would seek to deny all of life itself with utilitarian productivism that devolves into a sort of communism of action styles -- yet he is able to ignore the communist modality by appeal to the supposed opposition of the term capitalism, something none can truly imagine for the bitcoin world is not one anyone knows, nor can honestly claim to know in great detail, beyond the shallow surface. And what if hyperbitcoinization was nothing but a shallow element to something much larger? Then perhaps the bitcoiner might humble himself, but he has adopted the philosophy of the fiat minded by other means, by and large, or has becoming but a hermit, a denial of life itself, an abstention from one's own life! Not to say it is a bad thing. It is marvelous in its own right, but martyrdom it still is.
And what of this notion of power? It is not such an esoteric thing after all. Walk down the wrong alley at night and glance at the face's of the men you walk past. You will notice a peer to peer, decentralized exchange of information pertaining to power, where consensus is usually found quite rapidly. In the encounter of power, all men are quick to understand the difference between actual truth, and their notion of "right" or "wrong" as to what this their property "right."
This power, how does it move? Information. So what do you have? You have secrets. You have context. This notion of "owning property" is a convenient dissimulation, and one which may be remarkably stable, but surely you know God does not guarantee "your" property? When one drops the pathetic pleading of "rights" what is left? Only the information you choose to reveal. By attachment to the notion of "property rights," you have submitted to the frame of power, which lets you enjoy this illusion, and if you appeal to illusions, how could your message ever resonate with anyone? For the money is owned by power and the power is held by networks of humans. The money is not the SQL databases of the Fed or the BIS, in and of itself, and this notion of things in and of themselves assures the confusion will continue.
When will the bitcoiner think in terms of power? Perhaps when he decides to acquire some to complement his capital. Then maybe the world will catch a glimpse of what bitcoin inspires. Until then, enjoy your hippy micropayments and shit-corporations, about which you are by now well aware, nobody cares. The gig is up, for neither do you.
When you realize bitcoin is a modality for power, it becomes clear that it is but a single dimension of power. Will you explore the others? Of course, you already have to some extent, but have you made your implicit understanding explicit, or have you allowed bitcoin to be a substitute for thinking deeply about the nature of life, and if so, has it truly made you rich, or only one dimensionally so?
It's just so pompous, it's really hard to get thru.
Sloshing thru that may unnecessary "for"s and "one might say"s and "of course"s and uuggghh dude. It's like a film school freshman script. Exhausting
What I think you're getting at, certainly with a not small lack of charm, is that it's one thing to have money and quite another to be skilled in its use. Bitcoin comes with no manual and lessons are hard one but what's the rush!? As the Bitcoiner messes about with hippy micropayments and shit-corporations the part she does not spend continues it's inevitable path toward world renovation. Perhaps instead of the chide you could offer resources for the skillful deployment of capital.
Quite right, there is no rush, and there is no rush for me to write well and inspire either. Things will shift in their own time, but the resources needed are in the styles of thinking, not in "guides" and such.
This 100%. The problem with bitcoin today is that its "users" are all peace hippies. None of them think in terms of power or territory. None of them understand winning.
There are plenty of people in the world who do understand money, power, territory and I bet they'll figure out how to use Bitcoin. That's not great to hear if you don't, but maybe that's the challenge bitcoiner's need to hear. If you don't learn to understand it, your coins will naturally flow to those who do.
The thing about people with lots of money, power, and territory is that they really don't need bitcoin. The meme of bitcoin being for the downtrodden is what has bitcoin tapped out now. The rags to riches meme doesn't work, and the people with power do not need bitcoin because they make power work for them, they do not need tools to oppose power.
Michael Saylor is not powerful. He runs an incredibly lousy SaaS company. He is within the bitcoin universe, but not broadly powerful. Nor is high status to future elites.
Bitcoin will become a tool to take powerful people and make them more powerful. It will increase inequality. When that becomes the mimetic focus, the pursuit of power and excellence, with the notion that bitcoin refines power into something less degenerate, then it will begin to catch on outside its bubble as get rich money for outsiders.
Bitcoiners have extremely little vision for projects in the world quite ironically and seem to not want to become powerful, or perhaps 100% of those who do simply have good opsec, but I doubt it.
The childish notion of libertarianism and EQUALITY is quite like communism. It assumes that a de-monopolization of violence means they are on an EQUAL footing. It is similar to the sloppy notion of mutually assured destruction and the view that 1 nuclear bomb is EQUAL to advanced nuclear capacity. To think access to certain capacities for violence equalizes is not too far off from thinking 1 bitcoin is about the same as 1 ethereum. Even if you imagine a perfectly liquid market for violence, it could end up being like being able to buy lots of quadcopters that are geographically limited by physics. You want the power of many ants? Anyway, the typical bitcoiner has no interest in power, they at best imagine a world where they become the new nobility, but rarely ever shape the world today.
The bitcoiner libertarian in fact is the biggest dependent on the Government State there is, yes, far more than an immigrant on welfare who has 100% of his life subsidized. It is true. The immigrant cut off would go about his life. The Bitcoiner, on the other hand, well, if the State one morning ceased to exist, wouldn't the Bitcoiner all of a sudden cease to exist too?
The thing about power is it's actually not too difficult to get near people around the top, if you are actually doing interesting things beyond the money itself, which is not the thing itself. If bitcoin were to catch on among a subset of elites, given its supply shock driven price movements, one might expect the market cap to be higher. Perhaps we will see a trickle in over the next several years as and if war ramps up. It's funny, it seems war might be the only thing that stirs the powerful. One might wonder, if bitcoiners are such geniuses, we don't they get into the military industrial complex? If they don't like the petro-dollar why don't they build the econo-bitcoin rather than gleefully escaping life in decadent fashion.
That people threw a fit at my original post does not mean I wrote it well. See, unlike the bitcoiner, I will not be so quick to congratulate myself every turn. That having zero reactionary replies would meant I wrote poorly does not imply any reaction means I have excelled in the objective. I must keep going, you see? I am not to be a lone voice, nor do I wish to own any sort of movement, it will be sort of fractal in nature... the refinement of the Bitcoiner, shall precede the refinement and restoration of the world.
Bitcoiners are so proud of their sloth, a guy with a shit tier software company who got in only in 2020 is close to owning a million coins in his company 🤣
It seems if anything, I am triggering everyone here with the suggestion that people may wish to be less sloppy with their thinking and language. Zero obligation to do so. :)
hahahahahaha
Exactly
He didn't walk away
He did not simply fuck off
Couldn't agree with you more. You might appreciate what we're doing here: www.sovereigncolony.com
Seems it isn't live?
Man, what timing. Servers went down for a bit. Back up now.
Tldr: Ownership is an illusion and bitcoiners all need to "explore" other sexual identities.
Jk, i like your contrarianism.
You have no idea what is bitcoin.
Fuck off loser.
You have no idea what is bitcoiner.
One of my favorite features about bitcoin is that as long as one follows the rules of bitcoin, one can continue using it without any issues, irrespective of any foolish opinion one may hold.
Only watching to your posts history and I can say definitely you are NOT a bitcoiner...
You think bitcoin is about circlejerking and repeating mantras incestuously?
You ever use bitcoin to fund a foreign space & missile company, or is posting memes in a certain style the pre-requisite to "being a bitcoiner"?
But yes, you got me, for of course, it would be absurd to suggest "I" even exist, so how could "I" "be a bitcoiner."
Identities are for those who have a will against being operators. What is the identity element of a mathematical field? -- the thing which when it multiplies every other element leaves it unchanged.
Memes are life and life is a meme
😂
I found this meme for your arsenal, Darth.
Let your anger flow through you.
this reads like a Mircea wannabe aping a Trilema piece minus the charisma and wit
Better it be done poorly than not at all.
The best thing bitcoiners have come up with... a few million in funding to make things like this website?
It would seem bitcoiners love the fiat world, so long as they have purchasing power in it, a rather healthy disposition I might add.
it's already been done by mircea, some way back now - he walked it and became 'pregnant with wrath' that TMSR, Castles etc were not possible in this era because of the lack of available men - you're a rhetorical retread merchant at best, and another example of what he railed against by talking it, poorly, rather than doing - you inspire nothing.
as he would so often instruct - check the logs!
Fair enough. This post was sloppy, and my inspiration of men in other domains are in many ways easier. As with many things in bitcoin, resistance to change is expected, and I do not expect much from a single post. I have my work cut out for me.
Have read a bit of Mircea, and am younger than most bitcoiners so wasn't around back then, but it does feel like something was lost. Pure wrath rarely provides direction, and I am not interested in wrath maxing.
I am curious though, what might a more refined "2nd coming of Mircea" look like?
most people use Bitcoin like emotional support. but Bitcoin doesn’t magically make you disciplined, dangerous, wise, persuasive, strong, or capable. it just removes excuses.
thard part starts after you buy it.
Disciplined and strong... is that what you see when you imagine the various bitcoiners you have met over the years?
some of the longer holders of say are def stronger and more disciplined. mainly because they been through the storms. they get it. they understand what’s to come.
What are bitcoin network that are bitcoin meme coins? WBTC for example?
Bitcoin is money.
Wow, incredible rhetoric, such incisive thought!
Hm... What? Maybe try again?
Well, why don't you just read the original Luhmann instead of some sloppy words I put together as I was falling asleep?
he can't try again, he's brain rot
Halfway through I forgot we were even talking about Bitcoin and not the meaning of existence.