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Offtopic, but I personally think alternative frontends are doing more harm than good.

Instead of nagging people to move to open platforms like odysee and nostr we sit comfortably from our invidious and newpipe frontends watching the world go to shit, but with a little more privacy.

Your favorite creators can’t express themselves freely on GoogleTube, shadow banning runs rampant, policy changes delete old videos from the platform, illegal and retarded DMCAs takedowns, random demonetizations… the list goes on and on.

I have nothing personal against NewPipe but their conformist behavior is not surprising given their software is a conformist solution.

Not disagreeing per se, but wondering if or how this is meaningfully different from using an adblocker.

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I use UblockOrigin on Firefox for lappy and works well but where Tubular wins is you dont need to be signed in to a goog account. And can still get

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I was referring to this bit:

I personally think alternative frontends are doing more harm than good.
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I wasn’t siding with adblockers over custom frontends, both make youtube just ever so slightly bearable to use so people don’t revolt and move into alternatives, like taking painkillers to alleviate the symptoms of poisoning instead of taking an antidote.

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That's what I meant. Do you think adblockers do more harm than good too?

No hidden agenda, no trick question. I'm just curious.

I would agree with custom frontends directing traffic to the shitty platform longer is a bad thing.
At the same time though, I don't feel the same about adblockers (not only wrt youtube but any site), even though the very same argument can be made.

I don't have a rational answer as to why, but maybe you feel different or have a new take I'm not seeing.

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I have a feeling why that could be.

In a addition to the arguments that also apply to adblockers, custom frontends simply take the oxygen out of the room.

Attention, development, donations etc. that could go towards decentralized platforms get burned with the sole purpose of playing catch up with pointless breaking changes from Google.

So I think it’s fair to say that adblockers are less bad than alternative frontends given their generic nature. And besides, ads aren’t the only annoyance YouTube has that customers frontends workaround.

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Could this argument be correlated against the case of Orange pilling businesses, they dont want to accept bitcoin but instead stay on the old fiat system, I guess the business accepting cash is like NewPipe

but with a little more privacy.

As opposed to taking card payments, akin to using youtube as goog want

Using Bitcoin as a business is like using say Justin's video platform, it requires a new type of thinking about how we access content, and then how do you get the creators over there etc

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It’s not rocket science, Odysee (previously known as LBRY) has been offering a free, single click YouTube channel mirroring tool for years.

This literally has less friction than accepting bitcoin, it’s a single time investment that pays off forever.

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