A graph to warm(!) my heart.
And it comes with a nice line to find in a mainstream news article:
Voltage fluctuations were one of the key causes of Europe’s worst blackout in decades in Spain and Portugal last year. It happened at a time when there was a large amount of solar on the system. Since then, grid operator Red Electrica has become more cautious, keeping gas-fired plants online for backup and relying less on solar.
I do love this kind of cope...
yeahyeahyeah, it's not our totally outdated technology that's wrong or our religious fervor making us install it, it's that the _support system around it_ hasn't kept up.
Maybe just get back to coal and nuclear, please...?
"The market refers to the solar cannibalization effect,""The market refers to the solar cannibalization effect,"
...which occurs when large volumes of solar power cause prices to plummet during sunny periods, reducing the revenue and value of projects. The more capacity that’s added, the bigger the effect.
oh, terrible:
Solar was first commercialized in the 1980s and its success has largely been driven by subsidies. ... As a result, Europe’s already stretched consumers can end up paying twice: first for the subsidies that fueled the solar boom, and again when producers are compensated to switch off as supply overwhelms the grid.
In Germany, Europe’s biggest solar market, those costs ultimately fall on consumers, though they are currently being absorbed by the federal budget to ease the burden.
Thank God for Germany, the ultimate Boomer parasite. And it's rapidly falling apart:
Germany is one of the nations where curtailment first emerged. It was initially associated with wind power in the north that couldn’t be transmitted south due to grid constraints. But more recently, solar in the south has faced the same issue after the huge expansion, said Leonhard Gandhi, a researcher at Fraunhofer Institute.
Bavaria, one of Germany’s economic engines, has branded itself a “solarland,” with installed capacity rivaling Spain’s. The state now has so much solar that, at times, it produces more power than the grid can handle — forcing frequent interventions and placing it among Germany’s most congested regions after the wind-heavy north.
In other news: climate change is a conspiracy, the 'rona crisis was fake, and the parasitic boomers can go fuck themselves.
Den OUT!
Battery technology needs to catch up. As I was researching the state of affairs when deciding to install solar on our home, we decided that the panels were worth it, but the battery was not.
Or, just mine bitcoin with the excess.
have you been sending CCs? trying to figure out if i have a problem with my wallet
Yes, I was having wallet issues and decided to try going full cowboy mode for a bit.
Its pretty refreshing, isnt it!! CCs are my fav shitcoin
Yeah, I think I'll stick with it for a while.
Coinos is reliable and simple to operate.
The fees are extremely competitive.
Using CCs does not support the LN network and only encourages centralised issuance of an inhouse shitcoin.
Economists frequently wax lyrical about the world they observe, and its evils, but may sometimes fail to be part of the solution if it requires any effort or inconvenience on their part...some might call them hypocrites!
Cowboy Credits are basically custodial sats
Sybil disobedience?
a lot here turns on "needs."
Vaclav Smil convinced me a few years ago that the energy density just isn't there, even extrapolating past improvements. Won't work. Better just use fossil fuels.
I submitted an essay to “Edukas Eesti” (Successful Estonia) essay competition, organized annually by Äripäev (Estonia's only business news outlet) pointing out:
Naturally, I didn't make it among the 13 finalists and the winning piece was about a "voluntary defense league of Estonian enterprises”
So yeah, Germans (unfortunately) aren't the only ones around Europe who have completely lost it.
:(
I’m running miners through a 50 years old water mill generator
Peak solar isn't the inflection point. It's when that graph goes negative. Anyway, it'll all work itself out. Doesn't take many blackouts before people sour on solar just like they did nuclear. Meanwhile the black stuff oozes faster than ever. OS out!
The graph currently only has one (partial) data point (2026) supporting this trend reversal. But I would not be surprised this reversal holds.
Let's revisit these forecasts during the next few years.
@remindme in 1 year
@remindme in 2 years
@remindme in 3 years
@remindme in 4 years
@remindme in 5 years
given that these types of (hyped-up) forecast graphs are exponential up, and this one is down, I'm gonna say it's pretty indicative
China leads the world in electricity power generation.
They manufacture the PVs, wind turbines, hydro turbines and nuclear plants are a fraction of the cost anyone else can because they have a cohesive strategy of comprehensive industrial efficiency and development.
The wealth of nations is to a considerable extent derivative of the integrity and strategy of governments.
Free markets do not consider the wealth of the nation so much as the wealth of individual players and so nations without the will to direct capital and development toward the best interests of the nations as a whole tend to decline in power wealth and sovereignty over time.
Misguided Libertarians breastfed on neoliberal dogma and over simplified economic models derivatives will struggle to comprehend or even see the rise of China and its mixed model economy.
Energy debates always get tribal fast, but the economics of oversupply and grid stability are definitely becoming harder to ignore.
Do not ever mention
The Greater Israel Project.
Stacker News most downzapped post ever!-
The 'Greater Israel' project proposes that military aggression is justified. WW3