I don't know that there are any good examples of platforms where people earn a living solely by tips... that is, voluntary contributions *after* the product is already freely available.

That being said, lightning micropayments could support a bunch of other business models like patreons, super chats, subscription tiers, etc.  It doesn't just have to be tips.

SimpleStacker

I get it. My point is that there’s a place with an order of magnitude fewer users that manages an order of magnitude more zaps. 

Perhaps there’s something to learn from that model for those concerned about low zapping on their product.

Undisciplined

yes, but also it's not like it's meaningful enough to become a serious source of income (at least not yet). I often think about Darth's insistence that the innovation of SN isn't zaps, but pay-to-post.

Maybe zaps are the way we draw these people in, but when I read Gleason's piece here it was clear to me that he is still thinking of zaps as a way to earn money and I'm not sold on that.

I love micropayments, but I don't know that I love them in the v4v, earn a living sense.

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Onchain Zaps in Ditto: Bitcoin Tipping Without Lightning - Alex Gleason

Scoresby

> meaningful amounts of bitcoin

yes, but also it's not like it's meaningful enough to become a serious source of income (at least not yet). I often think about Darth's insistence that the innovation of SN isn't zaps, but pay-to-post. 

Maybe zaps are the way we draw these people in, but when I read Gleason's piece here it was clear to me that he is still thinking of zaps as a way to earn money and I'm not sold on that. 

I love micropayments, but I don't know that I love them in the v4v, earn a living sense.