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But what is the story people beleive that follows after the story of self determination. Of globalism. Of democracy.

Rise in national identity? That seems to be a trend though I am not sure it sticks after the massive diversification of populations.

What moral guiding principles do people organize around? Faith in the ideals of democracy are on life support.

Do we drift into a techno neo-nationalism? Or do we see globalism take over and the idea of nations die?

I think the story becomes: "All those ideals (like liberty, democracy, equality, etc) were never real, they were just a plot by [fill in your villain] to control you. So now you shouldn't bother with any of that, just pay attention to your phone and have faith in bureaucracy."

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Trust the experts and follow the science

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But make sure they are our experts, our science, in our democracy.

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That’s not how this works

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Science is and has been the religion. We never have nor ever will have separation of church and state. We either have a new religion (what we have today) or we have two institutions that work together and balance each other.

How do you like them apples.

Religion is just a different word for world view. Many religious people, maybe most are actually more centered on their political world view than their "faith". Its sad but true. The worst part is that most do not realize it. They think they are voting "christian" but really they worship the nation state. And the science obsessed other half are not better. They think they can keep the two separate but one always wins over. It ain't the church either.

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I agree, however democracy is society's escape valve, and it's not going anywhere. Corporations handpick the candidates and give them to the people to vote for so they feel like they're an important part of the process, only to then return to the complacency of everyday life.

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The story might be "Thank goodness these smart people are keeping me safe from all this scary stuff I don't understand."

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58 sats \ 3 replies \ @Fenix 27 May

This is the deal since the first empire.

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The state has to be a variation on this theme or it will face rebellion.

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107 sats \ 1 reply \ @Fenix 27 May

Without being a broken record, this is also the typical cycle of the rise and fall of these same empires. In my view, life today is so artificial, detached from nature, and dependent on synthetic elements (meds, economic controls, consumerism), that every rebellion ends up serving as the foundation for a new corporation rather than a break between individuals and this fraud.

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Yes, because the rebels never actually understand the problem or, if they do, the movement gets coopted.

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